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and both of us were fortunate enough to take notes in very decisive meetings between clinton, rabin and so forth. and you can see what happens when the two decision makers like each other and trust each other. and when they don't. and unfortunately, during the first four years there was a lack of trust between obama and netanyahu. and this is something that will transpire later but to me, one of the most important potential outcomes of this visit would be to restore or to build from the outset. >> rose: a relationship between netanyahu and obama. >> and obama, where they can trust each other. >> but that starts, i think, with him building the relationship of trust with the israeli public. you see, his approval ratings went down to 10. that is what they were on friday before they went there. and the irony is that they also went down to 10 in the arab world. because what the arabs wanted was him to fulfill his promise to solve the palestinian problem. when he didn't do that and didn't close guantanamo they lost faith in him. now, i think, us through this speech and through the actions tha
and both of us were fortunate enough to take notes in very decisive meetings between clinton, rabin and so forth. and you can see what happens when the two decision makers like each other and trust each other. and when they don't. and unfortunately, during the first four years there was a lack of trust between obama and netanyahu. and this is something that will transpire later but to me, one of the most important potential outcomes of this visit would be to restore or to build from the outset....
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they were showered with 16 years of affection by bill clinton and george w. bush and they got used to that and he now has an opportunity to go there, to explain to them that he's got their back, that he's been with them in their times of difficulties, whether it's at the u.n. or rockets from gaza or the iranian nuclear program, and that he's going to be with them in the future, and i think he'll use his oratorical magic and i think he'll have a powerful impact and that will be very helpful for an effort to restart the peace process after he leaves. tavis: you've said a couple of things that i want to pick apart. let me start with the notion that the president has a very low standing, a low approval rating amongst the israeli public. what has been the cause of that and has his -- i'm trying to find the right word here -- fractured or less than lovie dovie relationship with bibi netanyahu had anything to do with that standing? >> well, it's interesting you use the words "lovie dovie" because the president is not a lovie dovie kinda guy and that's part of the pr
they were showered with 16 years of affection by bill clinton and george w. bush and they got used to that and he now has an opportunity to go there, to explain to them that he's got their back, that he's been with them in their times of difficulties, whether it's at the u.n. or rockets from gaza or the iranian nuclear program, and that he's going to be with them in the future, and i think he'll use his oratorical magic and i think he'll have a powerful impact and that will be very helpful for...
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bill clinton was in love with the idea of israel. he wrote in his memoirs about rabin "i loved rabin as i've love nod other man." and george w. bush, with all the frustrations with ariel sharon was enamored with him as well. so obama inherited a high bar and, frankly, didn't make his own situation any better. he is not an emoter in chief. he has a tough time connecting so that's point number one, number two, this is a down payment trip. this is not a trip to reassure netanyahu on the palestinian issue or on iran because i don't think there's a way, frankly, to reassure anybody on either of these issues because we don't have an answer to either of them and neither do the israelis. >> rose: so therefore what can netanyahu do for the president? >> it's a really good question? i would argue on the iranian issue the prime minister has to give the president the time and space that he needs -- not to crowd him. where you stand in life has a lot to do with where you sit. i live in chevy chase, maryland. israelis sit in downtown jerusalem in
bill clinton was in love with the idea of israel. he wrote in his memoirs about rabin "i loved rabin as i've love nod other man." and george w. bush, with all the frustrations with ariel sharon was enamored with him as well. so obama inherited a high bar and, frankly, didn't make his own situation any better. he is not an emoter in chief. he has a tough time connecting so that's point number one, number two, this is a down payment trip. this is not a trip to reassure netanyahu on the...
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president bill clinton looked on as yasser arafat and israeli leaders shook hands. nevertheless, prospects for peace were shaken when palestinian extremists intensified their campaign of terror. for its part, israel broke with accords by refusing to dismantle settlements in the west bank and gaza strip. washington changed its middle east chad agee following the attacks of september 11. americans were more focused on the war on terror. peace with the palestinians took a back seat. but in 2002, president george de b. bush outlined a two-state solution when he presented what was called the road map. again, the three-that peace plan failed to stop the spiraling violence. on a visit to egypt in 2009, a newly elected president obama but washington's traditional relations with israel to the test when he sought to mend ties with the islamic world. >> i have come here to cairo to seek a new beginning between the united states and muslims around the world. >> but obama failed to meet expectations in the islamic world, and many criticized what they called half-hearted efforts
president bill clinton looked on as yasser arafat and israeli leaders shook hands. nevertheless, prospects for peace were shaken when palestinian extremists intensified their campaign of terror. for its part, israel broke with accords by refusing to dismantle settlements in the west bank and gaza strip. washington changed its middle east chad agee following the attacks of september 11. americans were more focused on the war on terror. peace with the palestinians took a back seat. but in 2002,...
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barack obama, to be candid, has not been popular in israel as compared to bill clinton and george bush. what this speech was about was trying to do in one hour what those politicians had done through engagement week after week, was to show the israelis that he understands intellectually, politically, he understands why they feel special about their country. to bring all that together, and as andrea said, this speech was designed to do all that. barack obama has shown in his career that these big set-piece speeches are his probably best tool as a president and as a political leader. if he can launch it, this will be the way to launch it. >> what is interesting, also, another aspect he brought was really an emotional connection. i was here with you. he's talking as a parent and reached out to israeli parents and said, were you to speak to some of these young palestinians i spoke with this morning, you would wish them well, you would wish them prosperity and peace. how much, jamie, do you think israeli and palestinian politicians can step outside of their role as politicians and look just
barack obama, to be candid, has not been popular in israel as compared to bill clinton and george bush. what this speech was about was trying to do in one hour what those politicians had done through engagement week after week, was to show the israelis that he understands intellectually, politically, he understands why they feel special about their country. to bring all that together, and as andrea said, this speech was designed to do all that. barack obama has shown in his career that these...
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is a big leap, the kind of connection that george bush had on security concerns and certainly bill clinton had as a beloved figure in israel. that is what he had not done until now. he had been here as a candidate in 2008. i was covering him there then. he had not reached out to israel's people in a personal way. and i think that's what he tried to accomplish. he did it by talking about the struggles of the palestinians and the israel business the civil rights struggle, with the fact that you israelis have fought for this land. you fought to overcome your struggles just as my children in another generation would not have had equal rights. so he really tried to make it a personal appeal. and that i think had some resonance in talking to the host of the "meet the press" here in israel and very widely known anchor. and she said the follow-up is the main concern. but that it was a very different kind of speech and very appealing to the people there in the room. >> and making that personal appeal something the president does very well. thanks again and safe travels. i want to bring you in. you
is a big leap, the kind of connection that george bush had on security concerns and certainly bill clinton had as a beloved figure in israel. that is what he had not done until now. he had been here as a candidate in 2008. i was covering him there then. he had not reached out to israel's people in a personal way. and i think that's what he tried to accomplish. he did it by talking about the struggles of the palestinians and the israel business the civil rights struggle, with the fact that you...
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that being said, i think president obama has also understood, and you saw clinton do this, secretary clinton did this, every single trip she ever did, she did something outside of the official and made a point to go talk directly to the people. and i think the president understands that he has got to go make that case and try to you know, whether it's poll numbers or what have you. build some kind of a bond with the people directly, because how you impact and are viewed by the folks outside of government will help your efforts inside of government. and he hasn't always done that. you know, the last thing i'll say on this is people see it as a sign of respect. come and talk to us. granted it was a supportive audience. but come and talk to us, show us that you care about the things that are important to our culture. to our history. george bush, remember, he was not a big fan of doing that. and it really, it was something that -- >> and also this is the president, this is president obama's first state visit to israel, right? and ben, as you mentioned, i want to get you in here one more
that being said, i think president obama has also understood, and you saw clinton do this, secretary clinton did this, every single trip she ever did, she did something outside of the official and made a point to go talk directly to the people. and i think the president understands that he has got to go make that case and try to you know, whether it's poll numbers or what have you. build some kind of a bond with the people directly, because how you impact and are viewed by the folks outside of...
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we've seen this evolution and clearly, hillary clinton as secretary clinton was forward-leaning as far as spousal benefits, partner benefits at the state department. but this is is a clear an obvious step. what she signaling? >> i think what she's signaling is what we've, the other folks that you've mentioned, is that support for gay marriage is now, pardon the phrase, going to be a litmus test in the democratic party. i'm almost thinking about how secretary clinton, when she was candidate clinton, had to explain why she voted for the war and express her views on the war. candidates are now going to be explaining why they weren't for gay marriage earlier and who would have ever, i'm not criticizing her. i think it's a terrific development. but whoever would have thought that she would have been preempted on this, by rob portman? times have changed. >> times have changed indeed. and rapidly. and this was her endorsement was delivered via the human rights campaign headed by chad griffin. formerly an arkansasen and someone? the press office in the clinton white house years, we knew him in
we've seen this evolution and clearly, hillary clinton as secretary clinton was forward-leaning as far as spousal benefits, partner benefits at the state department. but this is is a clear an obvious step. what she signaling? >> i think what she's signaling is what we've, the other folks that you've mentioned, is that support for gay marriage is now, pardon the phrase, going to be a litmus test in the democratic party. i'm almost thinking about how secretary clinton, when she was...
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she specialized in affairs at the state department during the clinton and bush administrations and joined by matt center for american progress. seems like i just spoke to you last night. tell us what this speech means. does this mean the administration is willing to put forth a serious effort towards brokering peace in the middle east and specifically between israelis and palestinians or is this a tremendous speech that doesn't have the substance necessary to carry forth? >> i think it is a speech that underscores obama's speech in rhetoric. unfortunately i don't think it was tremendous in substance. the key aspects what's really necessary for a two state solution, halt to settlements, that was completely dropped from obama's prior substance filled speeches. unfortunately this plan or idea isn't going anywhere. >> why did he drop it? didn't want to insult the israelis to their face? didn't want to challenge them that toughly? >> i think the whole trip was not to make peace in the middle east to make peace with congress at home to pursue a domestic agenda to get work done here in the unite
she specialized in affairs at the state department during the clinton and bush administrations and joined by matt center for american progress. seems like i just spoke to you last night. tell us what this speech means. does this mean the administration is willing to put forth a serious effort towards brokering peace in the middle east and specifically between israelis and palestinians or is this a tremendous speech that doesn't have the substance necessary to carry forth? >> i think it is...
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also we'll have more on hillary clinton's evolution of marriage equality. what it means ahead for the supreme court taking up the issue one week from now. will this be the new litmus test for the 2016 democratic nominee? plus, what the devil is going on right here? the history channel is responding to an image that has sparked a lot of outrage online. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly worsens, your t
also we'll have more on hillary clinton's evolution of marriage equality. what it means ahead for the supreme court taking up the issue one week from now. will this be the new litmus test for the 2016 democratic nominee? plus, what the devil is going on right here? the history channel is responding to an image that has sparked a lot of outrage online. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva...
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president clinton got the assault weapons ban passed with a lot of effort. he had to hustle on capitol hill to try to get people to vote for it. the n.r.a. was a factor back then as well. it's not just the n.r.a., but hundreds of millions of americans who have-- 100 million americans who have guns. and this is ron fournier, dispointed saying i don't have the words to describe the cowardess of congress and can't explain the impotencesy of president obama who vowed to use whatever power the office holds, but ultimately did not fight. >> monica is right with her analysis, political analysis was exactly right and saying that, now, he doesn't want these democrats to die on this hill. and the president doesn't want them to die on the hill. instead more americans with be shot and i don't have any patience for this cowardess is exactly what he's saying. and at least what you say is right. other people don't agree, i get that. i don't think it's right and the president doesn't think it rights, and it deserves a vote. >> megyn: the moving moment. state of the union. >
president clinton got the assault weapons ban passed with a lot of effort. he had to hustle on capitol hill to try to get people to vote for it. the n.r.a. was a factor back then as well. it's not just the n.r.a., but hundreds of millions of americans who have-- 100 million americans who have guns. and this is ron fournier, dispointed saying i don't have the words to describe the cowardess of congress and can't explain the impotencesy of president obama who vowed to use whatever power the...
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every president had problems besides bill clinton because israel does not want to establish a two-state solution and that's the-- >> and he said he was going to fix this and he wasn't able to. saying america was arrogant in cairo didn't work, did it, colonel west? >> well, sean, let's start with andrea mitchell over at msnbc, said this is the worst relationship she's seen and she's been covering since ronald reagan. and the first interview was al-arabi al-arabiya. and in cairo talked about a new beginning between the united states and muslim world. i think we've seen pan out a muslim brotherhood government in control and we misread the arab spring and the muslim brotherhood said they wouldn't run someone for president and they did. we've seen hamas stronger as well as hezbollah, islamic jihad. and we've seen incredibly unstable situation in syria. when i was there on a congressional visit and we sat down with president netanyahu, one thing he asked, he was concerned about iran and the dominance and occurred and we have the iranian guard in syria. and their march toward having the nuclea
every president had problems besides bill clinton because israel does not want to establish a two-state solution and that's the-- >> and he said he was going to fix this and he wasn't able to. saying america was arrogant in cairo didn't work, did it, colonel west? >> well, sean, let's start with andrea mitchell over at msnbc, said this is the worst relationship she's seen and she's been covering since ronald reagan. and the first interview was al-arabi al-arabiya. and in cairo...
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the clinton model saying let's hug each other close. he started offer the speech by talking about his friend, bb, using not even his first name, his nickname talking about their good relationship, emphasizing the security side of the relationship which institutional lee at least has been very strong and trying to mend the fences that he really broke in the first four years. then he got to the peace process part of the speech which was a different story. jenna: is that move from the carter to the clinton model a good thing for the american people? >> it's a good thing because it signals an improvement in relationship. it's a smart thing politically both in the united states and israel. the question of how obama felt or feels about israel has been a live political question in both countries, and here to have this kind of engagement with young israeli students is a way of trying to reach out to say, look i'm not an unfriendly president, i really mean when i say -- it's in the a cliche that when i talk about having your back, it's much more
the clinton model saying let's hug each other close. he started offer the speech by talking about his friend, bb, using not even his first name, his nickname talking about their good relationship, emphasizing the security side of the relationship which institutional lee at least has been very strong and trying to mend the fences that he really broke in the first four years. then he got to the peace process part of the speech which was a different story. jenna: is that move from the carter to...
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first, secretary hillary clinton helped to spearhead the reforms bat created a coherent syrian opposition council. now you have the secretary kerry, who is deeply involved in that effort as well. we are providing not just advice, but training and capacity in order for that political opposition to maintain links within syria and be able to provide direct services for people inside of syria, including the relief efforts that obviously we are seen here in jordan, but there is a whole bunch of people internally displaced inside of syria who need help. i think that what your question may be suggesting maybe is, why haven't we simply gone in militarily? and you know, i think it is fair to say that the united states often times it finds itself in situations where if it goes in militarily, and if it does not, then people say, why are you doing something militarily? and you know, my response at this stage is to make sure that what we do contribute to bringing an end to the bloodshed as quickly as possible. and working in a multilateral context, an international context, because we think our experi
first, secretary hillary clinton helped to spearhead the reforms bat created a coherent syrian opposition council. now you have the secretary kerry, who is deeply involved in that effort as well. we are providing not just advice, but training and capacity in order for that political opposition to maintain links within syria and be able to provide direct services for people inside of syria, including the relief efforts that obviously we are seen here in jordan, but there is a whole bunch of...
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i'll never forget a trip i took to see -- right after president clinton had seen pta ssad in jan 2004. prior to the trip, the prime minister conveyed to us what it is he wanted to see come out of it. we actually produced what it is he wanted to see come out of it. i walked to the meeting, we feeling highly confident that we did what you asked, and the first thing he did was devalued with what i came with. why did he do it? he knew i was asking something of him. if you go to the kinds of meetings and the expectations are very high, each leader is suddenly worries about what you ask of them. when the expectations are low, then you're in a better situation to have a serious conversation. and you can explore, what are the possibilities here? maybe the way you frame the conversation is what are the consequences of not getting anything done with each side? if the congresses consequenceses are severe enough how can we think together about what it is possible? where could we be some point of commonality we can build on? i expect, you know, you have -- it will end up being, you know, serious c
i'll never forget a trip i took to see -- right after president clinton had seen pta ssad in jan 2004. prior to the trip, the prime minister conveyed to us what it is he wanted to see come out of it. we actually produced what it is he wanted to see come out of it. i walked to the meeting, we feeling highly confident that we did what you asked, and the first thing he did was devalued with what i came with. why did he do it? he knew i was asking something of him. if you go to the kinds of...
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so clinton bush and obama, all of the above. first of all to you, jeffrey, your reaction to the speech today. you were there in the hall, the feeling from the young people. admittedly, more supportive of obama perhaps than the overall israeli public. >> maybe, but i mean many university students do lean right. most amazing thing about it for me was a huge ovation when president obama called for the creation of a palestinian state in different iterations and i was thinking when i was in there, if he had given that speak at an apec convention in washington, he might have been booed. i'm trying to imagine what arab audiences across the muslim world were thinking when they saw israelis cheer obama for calling, for palestinian state. it was kind of a brief moment of possibility there. >> and dennis, you spent so many years trying to make this happen, do you think in retrospect, that the administration got off on the wrong foot with prime minister netenyahu, the cairo speech, not following it up perhaps and calling for the settlement
so clinton bush and obama, all of the above. first of all to you, jeffrey, your reaction to the speech today. you were there in the hall, the feeling from the young people. admittedly, more supportive of obama perhaps than the overall israeli public. >> maybe, but i mean many university students do lean right. most amazing thing about it for me was a huge ovation when president obama called for the creation of a palestinian state in different iterations and i was thinking when i was in...
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clinton four times and bush in 2008. they went at a moment they were on the cusp -- and the president is coming to close a deal. >> this is about iran? >> there is no deal. >> i think he is sending a message to iran and israelis. i think he is trying to speak over the heads of israelis leaders and say to the israeli people give me time. i'm working on iran. give me time. i have your back, israel. >> is this about become? >> no, do that in the next block. >> this time it's personal. >> on the nation's debate on gun reform. president obama's initiative to reduce violence in america has been severely weakened. harry reid has announced the most controversial and ambitious part of the president's proposal a ban on assault weapons will not make the final cut when he brings the bill up for debate. >> but, right now, her amendment using the most optimistic numbers has less than 40 votes. that's not 60. i have to get something on the floor so we can have votes on that issue and the other issues i talked about and what i'm going t
clinton four times and bush in 2008. they went at a moment they were on the cusp -- and the president is coming to close a deal. >> this is about iran? >> there is no deal. >> i think he is sending a message to iran and israelis. i think he is trying to speak over the heads of israelis leaders and say to the israeli people give me time. i'm working on iran. give me time. i have your back, israel. >> is this about become? >> no, do that in the next block. >>...
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forre reagan had run president in 1980 on tom dewey's platform, if bill clinton had run for president on adlai stevenson's platform, these would not have worked so well. >> ronald reagan faced these challenges because he had to deal with a badly broken budget process that was a product of the 1974 act. wasof my responsibilities to draft the decision for reagan called the budget process reform act that would deal with these things. i introduced it. we had over 200 sponsors. we had a bipartisan sponsorship in the senate. as you can see from problems we are experiencing, the process has never changed. if you want to find something that is capable of being completely bipartisan, multi- partisan, omni-partisan, it is fixing the budget process in a neutral way, because once you subtract everybody's passionate ideology, it is easier to come to agreement about putting a whole thing in a box and making sure there are priorities. hasng sure the system teeth, because the big problem is you can blow off the process and people do. >> we started a few minutes late, so we have time for audience ques
forre reagan had run president in 1980 on tom dewey's platform, if bill clinton had run for president on adlai stevenson's platform, these would not have worked so well. >> ronald reagan faced these challenges because he had to deal with a badly broken budget process that was a product of the 1974 act. wasof my responsibilities to draft the decision for reagan called the budget process reform act that would deal with these things. i introduced it. we had over 200 sponsors. we had a...
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arrived at army's litigation division in washington with 1992 with the inauguration of president bill clinton. one of the things you may recall, before he took office he said, look, i'm going figure out how to open up the armed forces to homosexual and lesbian to share our military. at that time, that ultimate crafted the policy was don't asked don't tell in 1992 that has been overturned twenty years later. i got a chance as i defended the army in discrimination lawsuits not in that area but in the normal title vii cases i have a chance to see how they played out in a different area of discrimination. i felt like all of those experiences were formative as i ascended my normal position now is the judge advocate general. for the last four years in particular, we have gone through extraordinary changes in social policy. and if that period i'd like to talk about tonight with my remarks here to you tonight. so if i could have my next slide, please. i'm going walk around a little bit, if i could. i think everything important in life comes from this. many people who i see think the tiger has a diffi
arrived at army's litigation division in washington with 1992 with the inauguration of president bill clinton. one of the things you may recall, before he took office he said, look, i'm going figure out how to open up the armed forces to homosexual and lesbian to share our military. at that time, that ultimate crafted the policy was don't asked don't tell in 1992 that has been overturned twenty years later. i got a chance as i defended the army in discrimination lawsuits not in that area but in...
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i will never --get a trip i took to right after clinton had seen president assad in geneva. prior to the trip, the prime minister conveyed to us what it was he wanted out of it. he produced what he wanted to see come out of it. i walked into the meeting feeling highly confident. we did what you asked. the first thing he did was immediately devalue what i came with. why did he do it? because he knew i was coming to ask something of him. if you go into these meetings in the expectations are very high, each reader is suddenly worried about what you are going to ask of them. when are low, you are in a better position to have a serious conversation and can explore the possibilities. maybe the way you frame that conversation is by talking about, what are the consequences of not getting anything done? with each side. enough, howsevere can we think together about what it is that could be possible? where could there be some points of commonality we could build on? , theret you will have will end up being serious conversations in private that are much more likely to be held precisely
i will never --get a trip i took to right after clinton had seen president assad in geneva. prior to the trip, the prime minister conveyed to us what it was he wanted out of it. he produced what he wanted to see come out of it. i walked into the meeting feeling highly confident. we did what you asked. the first thing he did was immediately devalue what i came with. why did he do it? because he knew i was coming to ask something of him. if you go into these meetings in the expectations are very...
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i'll never forget a trip i took to see rabin right after president clinton had seen president assad in geneva in january 1994. and prior to the trip, we had, you know, the prime minister conveyed to us what it is he wanted to see come out of it. and we actually produced what it is he wanted to see come out of it. so i walked into the meeting with rabin feeling highly confident, you know, all right, we did what you asked. and the first thing he did was immediately devalue what i came with. now, why did he do it? because he knew i was coming to ask something of him. and if you go into these kinds of meetings and the expectations are very high, then each leader is suddenly worried about what you're going to ask of them. when the expectations are low, you're in a much better position to have a serious conversation, and you can actually explore, all right, what are the possibilities here. but maybe the way you frame that conversation is by talking about what are the consequences of not getting anything done with each side? and if the consequences are severe enough, how can we think together
i'll never forget a trip i took to see rabin right after president clinton had seen president assad in geneva in january 1994. and prior to the trip, we had, you know, the prime minister conveyed to us what it is he wanted to see come out of it. and we actually produced what it is he wanted to see come out of it. so i walked into the meeting with rabin feeling highly confident, you know, all right, we did what you asked. and the first thing he did was immediately devalue what i came with. now,...